Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:47 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

No, Vegeta deserves the most backlash by far. Like I said, he simply didn't do something that could prevent Cell becoming complete, while Vegeta helped Cell. Krillin didn't necessarily know not using it would de-active #18 would cause Cell to absorb her, for all he knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell since he saw Vegeta kicking Cell's a***. It's destroying the remote altogether that was the really stupid move, but compared to literally helping Cell absorb #18, I'd say it's minor.

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:56 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:47 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

No, Vegeta deserves the most backlash by far. Like I said, he simply didn't do something that could prevent Cell becoming complete, while Vegeta helped Cell. Krillin didn't necessarily know not using it would de-active #18 would cause Cell to absorb her, for all he knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell since he saw Vegeta kicking Cell's a***. It's destroying the remote altogether that was the really stupid move, but compared to literally helping Cell absorb #18, I'd say it's minor.

You should look at the consequences of what both of them would cause and also the reasons for their decisions. You are ignoring the fact that Krillin's decision was based on a lot more selfishness and that his job was a lot easier ie. Pressing a button. Like I said, Vegeta almost managed to kill perfect cell so in hindsight he almost succeeded while dumbass Krillin got his neck snapped for his troubles. I'm not sure why Vegeta is being brought up here though. He already got the most hate in this thread by far, and I never see Krillin getting ripped around here which in this case is very justifiable.

Vegeta SSj4

Jan 14 2014, 11:01 PM

Dah to many to think but here's some:
-Krillin did not push the but go cause he love #18.
-Vegeta let Cell absorbed it #18 for the pleasure of fighting, and having the honor to beat the strongest been alive.
-Goku not finishing Fat Buu cause he wanted"The kids to take over".
-Gohan not killing Perfect Cell cause"He must pay".
-Vegeta ignoring Trunks warnings and risking he's life just to fight the androids.

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 06:06 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:56 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:47 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

No, Vegeta deserves the most backlash by far. Like I said, he simply didn't do something that could prevent Cell becoming complete, while Vegeta helped Cell. Krillin didn't necessarily know not using it would de-active #18 would cause Cell to absorb her, for all he knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell since he saw Vegeta kicking Cell's a***. It's destroying the remote altogether that was the really stupid move, but compared to literally helping Cell absorb #18, I'd say it's minor.

You should look at the consequences of what both of them would cause and also the reasons for their decisions. You are ignoring the fact that Krillin's decision was based on a lot more selfishness and that his job was a lot easier ie. Pressing a button. Like I said, Vegeta almost managed to kill perfect cell so in hindsight he almost succeeded while dumbass Krillin got his neck snapped for his troubles. I'm not sure why Vegeta is being brought up here though. He already got the most hate in this thread by far, and I never see Krillin getting ripped around here which in this case is very justifiable.

Uh they were both based on selfish decisions, but Krillin's was less selfish. Vegeta did it for his own pride, purely for himself. Krillin did it out of love for someone, which could still be considered selfish, but at least he did it for someone else.

Vegeta "almost" killing Cell (which isn't even completely true, since Cell was heavily suppressed and did it to troll Vegeta) isn't a justifiable excuse, he didn't know how well he could beat Cell at all. You can also use that excuse on Krillin anyway, as far as Krillin knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell before he even had a chance to transform.

I'm not justifying either of them, both of them were stupid mistakes, but to say Krillin was worse than the guy who actually helped Cell is pretty bias.

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 06:21 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 06:06 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:56 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:47 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

No, Vegeta deserves the most backlash by far. Like I said, he simply didn't do something that could prevent Cell becoming complete, while Vegeta helped Cell. Krillin didn't necessarily know not using it would de-active #18 would cause Cell to absorb her, for all he knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell since he saw Vegeta kicking Cell's a***. It's destroying the remote altogether that was the really stupid move, but compared to literally helping Cell absorb #18, I'd say it's minor.

You should look at the consequences of what both of them would cause and also the reasons for their decisions. You are ignoring the fact that Krillin's decision was based on a lot more selfishness and that his job was a lot easier ie. Pressing a button. Like I said, Vegeta almost managed to kill perfect cell so in hindsight he almost succeeded while dumbass Krillin got his neck snapped for his troubles. I'm not sure why Vegeta is being brought up here though. He already got the most hate in this thread by far, and I never see Krillin getting ripped around here which in this case is very justifiable.

Uh they were both based on selfish decisions, but Krillin's was less selfish. Vegeta did it for his own pride, purely for himself. Krillin did it out of love for someone, which could still be considered selfish, but at least he did it for someone else.

Vegeta "almost" killing Cell (which isn't even completely true, since Cell was heavily suppressed and did it to troll Vegeta) isn't a justifiable excuse, he didn't know how well he could beat Cell at all. You can also use that excuse on Krillin anyway, as far as Krillin knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell before he even had a chance to transform.

I'm not justifying either of them, both of them were stupid mistakes, but to say Krillin was worse than the guy who actually helped Cell is pretty bias.

Krillin did it for himself too. Yeah, for somebody else too. Somebody who he trained 3 years for to destroy. Somebody who Gero and Trunks said was gonna destroy everybody and most importantly somebody who told him that her mission was to destroy Goku, his best friend. He opted to save her instead of his friends and planet. He didnt even know that this android was capable of feeling either. Of cource that's more selfish. It's not even close.

Cell dodged vegetas blast on time, surpressed or not Vegeta almost succeeded, krillin did nothing except waste sensu beans because he was butthurt that his crush was absorbed. No bias here, I'm not the one sporting a sig of the character that Im defending.

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 06:25 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 06:21 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 06:06 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:56 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:47 PM

bardock1990

Jan 16 2014, 05:38 PM

Clearin

Jan 16 2014, 05:28 PM

Goku not killing Fat Buu when he had the chance.

Why are people calling Krillin out but not Vegeta? Both are responsible for Cell becoming complete, but at least in Krillin's case it was only "He could have prevented it but didn't", in Vegeta's case he actively helped Cell, that's much worse.

Atleast Vegeta truly believed that he was going to solve the entire problem on his own. It was more a case of delusion or high risk taking. In Krillin's case it was an intentional, crucial mistake based on selfish desires. He knew the consequences of his actions and still decided to proceed. Vegeta didn't actually think his actions were going to backfire. Also, he almost managed to kill Cell anyway. Krillin deserves the most backlash by far. And I must point this out again, the audacity of Krillin judging people like Vegeta, Gohan and Goku after what he did made him seem like a hypocrite and very dislikable.

No, Vegeta deserves the most backlash by far. Like I said, he simply didn't do something that could prevent Cell becoming complete, while Vegeta helped Cell. Krillin didn't necessarily know not using it would de-active #18 would cause Cell to absorb her, for all he knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell since he saw Vegeta kicking Cell's a***. It's destroying the remote altogether that was the really stupid move, but compared to literally helping Cell absorb #18, I'd say it's minor.

You should look at the consequences of what both of them would cause and also the reasons for their decisions. You are ignoring the fact that Krillin's decision was based on a lot more selfishness and that his job was a lot easier ie. Pressing a button. Like I said, Vegeta almost managed to kill perfect cell so in hindsight he almost succeeded while dumbass Krillin got his neck snapped for his troubles. I'm not sure why Vegeta is being brought up here though. He already got the most hate in this thread by far, and I never see Krillin getting ripped around here which in this case is very justifiable.

Uh they were both based on selfish decisions, but Krillin's was less selfish. Vegeta did it for his own pride, purely for himself. Krillin did it out of love for someone, which could still be considered selfish, but at least he did it for someone else.

Vegeta "almost" killing Cell (which isn't even completely true, since Cell was heavily suppressed and did it to troll Vegeta) isn't a justifiable excuse, he didn't know how well he could beat Cell at all. You can also use that excuse on Krillin anyway, as far as Krillin knew Vegeta was going to kill Cell before he even had a chance to transform.

I'm not justifying either of them, both of them were stupid mistakes, but to say Krillin was worse than the guy who actually helped Cell is pretty bias.

Krillin did it for himself too. Yeah, for somebody else too. Somebody who he trained 3 years for to destroy. Somebody who Gero and Trunks said was gonna destroy everybody and most importantly somebody who told him that her mission was to destroy Goku, his best friend. He opted to save her instead of his friends and planet. He didnt even know that this android was capable of feeling either. Of cource that's more selfish. It's not even close.

Cell dodged vegetas blast on time, surpressed or not Vegeta almost succeeded, krillin did nothing except waste sensu beans because he was butthurt that his crush was absorbed. No bias here, I'm not the one sporting a sig of the character that Im defending.

Having a sig of a character doesn't make you bias for them... And "Doing it for yourself and someone else" isn't as selfish as "Doing it for yourself".